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Contrary to other viral posts, there is exactly one right way to take down "AI" in the law that doesn't do more damage than the harm it prevents

And there are some early positive steps of that happening in Germany:

> I'd like you to imagine that it could be GEMA who drove the chatbots out of Germany

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPTYrU73Z9o

h/t @davidgerard

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@jhwgh1968 @davidgerard they wish to be the ones selling training rights to openai, including to music of non-members

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@charlotte this is true

But since we know OpenAI won't pay what they want I am not sure how much it matters to the final outcome?

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@jhwgh1968 my point is more the secony part

they are planning on selling extended collective licenses which include music whose artists have not explicitly granted GEMA rights to do so (this has been legal in germany for a few years now)

and honestly i’d rather have a chatbot be able to reproduce lyrics to an artist whose singing is notoriously difficult to understand than the licensing monopolist with origins in nazi germany selling licenses to music and pocketing the proceeds

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@charlotte interesting, I did not know

I guess that's more reason to hope for the "knock out" I think David was leading as a possibility:

GEMA wants too much for licenses (as noted in the video it wants a high share of *all* chatbot company profit) which means it doesn't sell any

All the chatbots get court judgements against them as GEMA tries to collect, so they just pull out of Germany to avoid paying

So both are defeated (in this small spat at least)

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