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駄女神シルヴィー 🌒🌕🌘 (They/She)

Edited 19 days ago

TIL how IPA writes the weird Austro-Bavarian consonants that blend b/p and d/t!

/b̥ɑrɑˈd̥æːsɐ/ - Paradeiser

so if you wanna write goodbye in Austrian, the most correct way is /b̥ɑ'b̥ɑː/ :D

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駄女神シルヴィー 🌒🌕🌘 (They/She)

I wonder what this is called in phonetics

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@follpvosten it's called "questionable" because voiceless /b̥/ is just /p/ blobcatgoogly

The more helpful answer is that voice onset time is the relevant phenomenon here. /b/ vs /p/ is not a dichotomy, it's a spectrum. The question is how soon the voice sets in again after the sound. The closer that happens to the sound, the more voiced it is. If the voice only comes in super late, that's when you get an aspirated /pʰ/.

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@schratze @follpvosten relatedly i need to learn how to not aspirate my plosives

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@charlotte @follpvosten you know what *unaspirates your plosives*

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@schratze @follpvosten now my plosives are aimless and depressed :(

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@charlotte @follpvosten they'll be fine. They'll just turn into voiced fricatives like in Spanish

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