Dog with Glasses Plushie 
woof@aria.dog
A new article from me:
I’ve been around for decades of discourse about the GIMP, and it’s high time to retire this conversation forever. I’ll contribute my last word on it:
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Dog with Glasses Plushie
woof@aria.dog
if you’re not interested in reading the article ( https://aria.dog/barks/gnu-imp-manipulation-program/ ) here’s a good-ass picture from it
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this is a great illustration of gimp: a tool that is technically capable of whisking and mixing but with horrid ergonomics bc it was designed by an engineer and not a chef
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miifox
miifoxKrita is the obvious answer for artwork, and i'm myself pro-Aseprite for pixel work (hey, open-source software can still be commercial!); whereas for photo work something like Darktable comes closer (it's more of a Lightroom than a Photoshop replacement, but it takes some cues from Photoshop to be much more powerful than a simple set of sliders). For prints and publishing there is both Inkscape and Scribus depending on your needs, and if you use Photoshop for website layout design you should be banned to the seventh layer of hell.
Meanwhile GIMP kinda just... exists. I don't know anyone that uses it in this day and age, it always felt more like an engineering exercise than a practical tool to use (as mentioned in your excellent article), but there is probably a dying breed of gnu's who swear it's the solution to everything under the sun.
Photoshop already is a very messy program to learn as a newcomer and GIMP takes that philosophy up to 11 thanks to the wonders of "designed in an university according to some vague philosophy that made sense in 1989". But as long as there is someone to maintain it it'll keep on existing, and there will always be fools who will love it for one reason or another.
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/Cinny 
Fluffy Kitty Cat
fluffykittycat@furry.engineer@woof maybe it's time someone simply Forks it and then takes the project in a New Direction, the underlying bones are probably good enough to craft into something usable as a Photoshop replacement and you can leave behind the culture and other problems that make it not suitable for the purpose people wanted to be suitable for. I'm not a professional so I really don't have a horse in this race, everything I need image manipulation for for gimp does perfectly
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Etherbloom
etherbloom@chaos.social@woof ehh, that wouldn't be the most confusing interface design by gimp. They got worse. /j
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wyatt 
wyatt@soc.megatokyo.moe
maybe things shouldn't fucking have corporate funding shithead
also gimp is fine, it's clunky sometimes but it works and it's fucking fine and i've never NOT been able to do something in it even if the method was stupid
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sarah the deer-mouse / Matilda Love
matildalove@wetdry.world@wyatt
"let's stop debating gnu imp" [2600 words]
amateur. i never started 
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sarah tonin 
SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt
@wyatt gnu imp has a reasonable way to make plugins and it should lean in that much harder, making into something more like emacs, but for editing images
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@wyatt sometimes i think the devs are scared of making it too useful
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sarah tonin
SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt
@wyatt what's more is then allowing usage of more "internal" filters would make sense: allows you to quickly test out how you want your filter to be, and most filters rely on those, and you'll probably want to compose them somehow
funny how photoshop and gnu imp are both utter bulshit specifically because they don't do that well
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sarah tonin
SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt
@wyatt or at all in the case of photoshop. i feel so stuck whenever i have to use it. with gnu imp instead i need to crawl through sewers after a diarhea epidemic
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dcatoffm
dcatoffm@mastodon.socialI'm one of those old folk who actually remembers Kai's tools. I learned desktop publishing in school and later learned Photoshop and Paint Shop Pro. From this background, when moving over to FOSS, I adopted Gimp like a redheaded stepchild. I love it and it does suit my needs. The only thing I dislike is the lack of vector layers, strictly raster; it can import vector, but has to convert and scale as raster.
I cringe when I see those ...
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... graphics saying Gimp replaces Photoshop; no, it does not. Maybe one day it sort of can, but as it sits it's just not there. You at minimum need something like Inkscape for vectors, and even then once imported it's effectively done; every edit is a quality reduction, which really defeats the point of using vectors.
I personally never had a problem with image quality out of Gimp; it seems on par with working with PS5 or PSP7 (I used PSP up to 10 and honestly ...
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...think Corel ruined it; the last Jasc version was PSP9 and while it was good, I don't think 8 or 9 really justified the upgrade). Has Photoshop really gotten that much better? I don't know, I refused to pay a subscription.
Similar to the article, I generally recommend Krita to artists. I find Gimp sufficient for photo manipulation, and some aspects of DTP. It's also useful for separating pages from PDF's. Gimp has utility, if nothing else. The workflow is just terrible.
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