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Charlotte 🦝 therian

can an american explain this incomprehensible uspol to me please
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a fascist: we must leave the union! we will definitely be even more violently racist of course!
some liberals: we don’t want you anyways, it would be great if you left

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re: can an american explain this incomprehensible uspol to me please
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like how in the world can they chant in unison with actual fascists that want people dead specifically “in defense” against fascism

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@charlotte it is liberals for whom frustration is stronger than irredentism. Liberals who are even a bit fiscally conservative are annoyed at being ordered around by, and listening to separatist threats from, the dominant right-wing political groups in areas that are not economically self-sustaining and have very little population, which they view themselves as subsidizing. They are not concerned with or even necessarily aware of those fascists' intended victims.

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re: can an american explain this incomprehensible uspol to me please
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@miff as someone from a place that is run by fascists, in those minority groups, it feels like you are tossing us away like garbage. supporting fascist ideology isn’t helping anyone, purely the opposite. red states also are the ones with the highest proportions of black people live. Do you expect them to just collectively give up the lives they built up for themselves, with the support networks they built, and move to places they can’t afford to live in, with many of the same problems except that the color on political maps is different?

The reason why fascists suggest separatism is that they can harm minorities unfettered

why the hell are you supporting this

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re: can an american explain this incomprehensible uspol to me please
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@miff like you don’t help anyone not even your allies in blue states with this kind of deranged behavior

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@falcon the person i was subtooting has responded and it’s apparently not at all like that

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@charlotte everyone is different I guess! This is just the opinion I most often hear. What did they mean? (Aha, found it, nvm)

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@falcon directly mimicking fascist rhetoric by like, cutting off the cancerous parts of the country

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@falcon “oh well we can’t save everyone but that’s better than fascism getting over here

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re: can an american explain this incomprehensible uspol to me please
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@miff just because it’s not going to happens doesn’t mean you need to support actual fascist political agendas

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@miff like this is the part that i do not understand

you recognize that secession will harm your friends
you recognize that secession will harm other people you don’t know
you recognize that it’s supported by fascists who want to harm your friends

why do you still support it?

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@charlotte You win. You changed my mind. I surrender.

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@charlotte yeah. I don't love it. Unfucking the parts of the country that have fallen into ethnonationalism and fascism is a challenging generational problem, but the answer is certainly not to just let them be fascist, no matter how frustrating. And this tiny minority of fascists only have a shot at dragging the whole country further into fascism because, with an electoral system designed in large part to prop up slavery, it was never free to begin with.

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@charlotte I would if it made sense to me. My best guess, this place is fucked.

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