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Hot take to website form designers: not every country has states, and not every country requires them for billing/address purposes

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@yassie_j hello yassie residing in the state of west midlands

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@yassie_j tbh, almost no countries that aren't the US require province/state lol
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This website made entering a state mandatory. Why? Then it made me select from a drop-down list of “states”, which was just a list of every council area in the UK. Ergo, I apparently live in the State of Birmingham

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@yassie_j i wonder what it does if the country/territory doesn't have any iso3166-2 codes, like vatican city, hong kong, or aruba.

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@yassie_j As someone who has to design web forms for work I feel this. It’s like, if you know your product is going to be used outside the US, you can put a little extra thought into the form. If the country is set to United States, THEN show the state field. otherwise hide it. Sure it makes the processing data part more complex but not THAT much more complex

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@yassie_j don't we all live in a state of birmingham every once in a while

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There are 300+ council areas in the UK, BTW. This was a very long list to scroll through. I’m so glad “B” is at the beginning of the alphabet

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@yassie_j meanwhile aliexpress wanted my canton instead of my town last time I ordered. at least it was still able to get delivered, ig street + number + post code is unique enough in switzerland, despite multiple towns being able to share the same post code

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@luna yeeesh

The minimum in the UK is number, street, postal town, and postcode. Anything beyond that, like county, region, nation of the UK, is just extraneous

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@yassie_j yeah here the canton isn’t needed either. the proper format for an address is just name + street + building number + post code + town name

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@artemist

City: Hong Kong

State: Hong Kong

Country: Hong Kong

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@yassie_j the equivalent to a state or province in France would be the région i think,
and where i live that would be Provence-Alpes-Côte-d'Azur.
of course, in order to type this in, i would need the field to be long enough, to allow accented characters, and to allow dashes,

anyways, a french address requires none of that, you just need Name, Street number, Street name, Postcode, City name (if living in a small town only, any place that has over >10k inhabitants should have its own postcode)

and don't get me started in ireland, all you need is a fucking eircode. 7 characters, and you have a precise mailbox. i fucking hate website making me input ever single field in a US address when 7 characters is all you need!
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@yassie_j anyways, 30 years of web development and no use found for anything more advanced than "please write your mailing address bellow as you would on an envelope" followed by a freeform field with 5 lines
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@yukijoou yeah, an address in the UK is as simple as it is in France! There is no need to add lines upon lines of useless information between your settlement and “United Kingdom”

Eircode is really cool, and it just makes sense. Post is for delivery, so why not make it as precise as possible?

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@yassie_j yeah!! they should make that worldwide, 7 characters is like, 100 billion addresses, even if you remove offensive-looking ones, you should have more than enough even for massive countries

then you can just slap a ISO 3166-1 country code prefix on it for international mail,,
so efficient,
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@yassie_j (for reference, France has 25m addresses in its national database, so 100bn is More Than Enough)
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@yukijoou oh my god…

Like

GB 1234 789

That’s all you need……..

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@yassie_j yeah,,,
they should do that, the world leaders should get together and do that,,
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@yukijoou the International Postal Union please get this done

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@yassie_j
as someone who’s lived in places starting with ‘o’ and ‘m’, lucky.. with a list of 320 and not 50, double lucky

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@yassie_j what the hell how did they even do that, wouldnt those be roughly equivalent to counties, not states?

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@ielenia not even that, these are just the lowest level of governance! So it’s a mishmash of cities and counties, but not the counties that the cities are in

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@yassie_j i am currently in a weird intermediate kinda-unemployed-but-not-really state because the HR person needed to know to which “state” of the Netherlands i am moving to and this delayed the job contract. At least that got resolved faster than my legal gender marker being rejected by their systems :|

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@yassie_j
the only correct address form is a freeform text field that reject any address ending in a us state name except georgia
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@anya the concept of other countries not being a federation is alien to some

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@anya @yassie_j they're usually happy taking the province as a "state" input.

I have experienced american companies making the "state" field both mandatory AND a drop down with only US states xD
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