a whole world out there

https://soc.megatokyo.moe/objects/67591d4c-9fbc-46fd-8eb8-8365ff836c7d

yes i very much WANT to have chat logs without setting up a bouncer server or keeping my computer permanently on or whatever the fuck else

like no wonder every irc user ive seen was comically neurotic. id be neurotic if people would ask me the same exact question every 5 minutes too

@halva skill issue

@tauon skill issue is the protocol being so bad at adapting to the actual reality of how people use computers that even linux devs migrate off of it

@halva this is because linux users suck and are stupid

@tauon @halva ad hominem

@sodiboo @halva holy reddit

@tauon @halva I don’t use reddit.

you realize this is not at all a productive way to discuss a genuine criticism against IRC? genuinely if you’re just going to attack people and not at all discuss the topic, why reply?

@sodiboo @halva why are you like this

@tauon @halva like what?

@sodiboo @halva doing this whole enlightened centrist bit

@tauon @halva I’m annoyed at the way you’re replying to this

@sodiboo @halva i feel like none of you have actually had genuine real conflict online and just live in a fantasy world and that’s why you’re like this
no-one has actually insulted you before other than being a reddit debatebro who you can just buzzword away
everything is like too skewed in your own favour you’ve never actually had to argue for anything in your life

@tauon @halva …. what?

@tauon @sodiboo @halva little known trick but being obnoxiously toxic to everyone actually helps to convince others of your viewpoint

@tauon @sodiboo @halva you brought the following statements to the table:

• op has a skill issue
• some other group of people is stupid
• sodi is a redditor and enlightened centrist

this just looks like you are being an asshole for the sake of being an asshole, not arguing for any particular viewpoint

@lea @sodiboo @halva this is why no-one likes you

@charlotte @sodiboo @halva i think what’s happening here is you’re all unsubtly trolling me to try to push me to leave but i won’t do that until i write my guix config so you can do this shit as much as you want you will achieve nothing

@tauon @sodiboo @halva honestly that is a great idea. go close fedi, do something else, sleep, come back with a cleared mind and see that this thread is absolutely bonkers on your part

@tauon @charlotte @halva I’m not trying to get you to “leave” (leave what?). I don’t hate you and we’re not conspiring against you. the words I am saying can be taken at face value: I’d like you to realize that you’re being mean on the internet. and that you do not have to do this. this is not a requirement. in fact, most people would rather you didn’t.

@sodiboo @charlotte @halva you are still doing the thing. you are being like twitter and i need to realise this isn’t normal. you do not need to force people to believe the same thing as you by pasting the link into a discord server (hey!), that’s not very internet ettiquette of you. actually it’s giving 4chan

@charlotte @sodiboo @halva schizophrenia doesn’t go away if you sleep ❤️

@tauon @charlotte

by pasting the link into a discord server

I’m not sharing this conversation anywhere in any sense other than By Replying. I don’t appreciate you implying that I’m trying to get people to dogpile on you or whatever. I guess I can understand why you might think that? because I’m genuinely also mildly surprised that like three others have joined the thread by now. but those three people are independently telling you this same thing. again, we’re not like, conspiring against you or anything.

I’m just trying to tell you that you’re being unnecessarily mean on the internet. I don’t want you to apologize or admit you were wrong; I just would like you to actually understand that you are, indeed, being mean right now. I hope you understand that. and I hope you’re not doing it on purpose.

@sodiboo @tauon akkoma just shows replies in the timeline for some reason. i do not know why it does it, but it does. and sometimes i jump in raccomment threads due to that

@tauon @charlotte I know you have schizophrenia. and you’re right, I don’t know at all what that’s like. maybe I do have “no idea how to act around someone who’s different [has schizophrenia]”. indeed, I don’t have a psychology degree or whatever. they didn’t teach me this shit growing up.

but that’s partially why I’m not just jumping to the conclusion that “you’re an asshole and I should block you”. because I do care about you enough to try and want to tell you what I feel you’re doing wrong. and I don’t feel like it’s wrong of me to point out that your comments are just being mean for seemingly no reason. you don’t seem to realize you are being very mean, even when I’m flat out telling you this. if that is because of your mental illness, i hope you will appreciate being told that you are, in fact, being very mean on the internet.

@sodiboo @tauon i was not aware that you had schizophrenia, but i did realize that you weren’t doing too well™ and that you would probably do better later. i don’t know you enough to know how to help you

the “do something else and go to bed” thing was more a “this helps me if i’m being irritable and angry” sorry if that was hurtful. i am not suggesting that it fixes mental illness (it doesn’t for me for starters)