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"unsere Weiterfahrt verzögert sich wegen eines Halt zeigenden Signals" ja okay und warum zeigt das Signal Halt?

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So tun, als würde man Leute informieren, ohne sie tatsächlich zu informieren

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@schratze “werte fahrgäste, ich möchte sie bitten geduld zu haben: wir kommen nämlich definitiv an!”

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@ranja ja ok wenn es halt halt zeigt muss der zug halt halten

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@schratze sounds like a certified Deutsch Bahn moment

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@Byte Eurobahn. Even worse

I'm a certified eurobahn hater

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@Byte Germany. I think one or two stations in the netherlands, too?

We have lots of small franchise railroad companies operating regional trains

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@schratze ah, I see. I was confused because it seemed like to me Deutschbahn was a semi-governmental monopoly.

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@Byte railways got semi-privatized so everything is fractioned into small little fiefdoms controlled by Nortwestbahn, Westfalenbahn, National Express, Metronom, the list goes on and on. All of these companies are owned by the national railways of France, GB, Netherlands or Germany. Shit's fucked

Deutsche Bahn still operates almost all of the high speed trains and some regional railways, too

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@schratze what in the fuck

Wait so they’re privatized but also owned by public sector companies? And some of them are owned by other countries’ national rail companies?

God what a confusing mess.

Privatization is a disease

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@schratze

Nobody:
Capitalists: “please can I do rent seeking?? Please let me be a pointless middleman, I’ll give you all sorts of semi-legal kickbacks”

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@Byte yeah because privatizing a backbone of the country-wide infrastructure was a shit idea in the first place

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@Byte @schratze welcome to the nordics, we have:

- norwegian rail company owned by the swedish state rail company
- swedish rail company owned by the norwegian state rail company
- swedish rail company owned by the finnish state rail company

much private such wow!

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@schratze @Byte you forgot odeg, they're owned by the italian national railway.
but in return deutsche bahn operates train service in new delhi, toronto, kairo and montevideo

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@schratze @u1l you know what, inflicting Deutschbahn on Canadians is kind of funny

Also I looked it up and apparently they lost the contract lol

I find it so interesting that such wacky arrangements come into being because of privatization

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@Byte @u1l and it's just getting worse and worse. Most railroad companies I use on a regular basis are owned by several holding companies listed on the stock market through like three different intermediates. I seriously don't know what's going on anymore

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@schratze @u1l that’s gotta be intentional obfuscation at some point

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@Byte @u1l or just the way capitalism works. Plus how state and municipal actors get involved every now and then to clean up the mess left behind by private companies

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