it’s only rolling your eyes if you rotate them around the lense, otherwise it is tilting your eyes

in a previous version of the post i accidentally used plane terminology instead of cinematography terminology

@charlotte I thought about it recently and reached the conclusion that it's discussable if the axis for rotation isn't specified...

@lajos why would it be different from the orientation of the camera?

@charlotte it depends on how we think of the problem, kinda 😭

So, if we compare to cameras, the perfect scenario would be that the eyes roll like this ↻↻ and the axis goes through the pupil... which is impossible :(

What eyes can do is ↷↷, but in this case the axis goes through the whites of the eyes and it's different from the comparison to cameras atp :/

However, eyes can move (but not roll) in all directions so we also have an option to move them like this ↑↑, putting an axis horizontally and perpendicularly to the first option's axis... and from a side view it will look like this ↻↻... and these movements are quite frequent and usual for both eyes AND cameras when we operate them

...if any part of this makes sense 💀
Or did I understand the claim wrong?..

@lajos i am saying that rolling your eyes would be ↻↻ (which is not typically possible) and that the motion that people mean by “rolling eyes” is instead ↑ which is much closer to a tilt in cinema

@charlotte if watching only from the front, definitely so 🤔

Maybe the move got its meaning even before inventing the word "tilt"? Or maybe "tilt" just sounds not dramatic enough for them ppl...💀

Anyways, thanks a lot for the post and this little discussion! These thoughts have been on my mind for some time and for some reason

@lajos i guess it could be interpreted as the raccamera toppling over

@charlotte sounds really precise to me