“$5 item + $10 shipping and you don’t want it but $15 item free shipping and you buy it like that” yes because I like having the pricing be intuitive! for the same reason the listed price should also contain tax!! shipping and tax are the same thing to me: both are fees that I have to pay. I don’t even wanna know about them just put it in the price to begin with!!!!!

“oh but shipping varies based on location” yes! so do tax laws!

@sodiboo there are multiple shipping options but not multiple tax options

including shipping in the price in all cases means that the cost for the highest cost shipping option will be included in the price

@sodiboo that also includes if there is no shipping, i.e. pick-up orders

@charlotte sure. “express shipping” doesn’t need to be in the initial price. but like, the base line shipping option? that should just be included!! also, a lot of stores straight up don’t offer multiple shipping options, in which case this doesn’t apply.

@sodiboo also similarly if you buy multiple

you might buy a product that requires a medium sized box to ship

and then from the same vendor also 2 or 3 items that can fit in the same medium sized box even if it ordinarily requires sending it in a small box

free shipping: you pay for the shipping of 3 or 4 independent boxes
paid shipping: you pay for the box you receive

@charlotte honestly fuck it just pocket the difference for pickup orders. I wouldn’t mind a world where it was normal to have a high enough profit margin to offer “free shipping” on everything. I mean, that’s basically what I’m asking for anyways.

alternatively, reframe pick-up orders as being discounted. “10% off if you pick up in store!”

@sodiboo on the other hand tax doesn’t behave the same way

it is inherent to the object being sold. your device has a 19% vat. your food has a 7% vat. you can’t choose to pay a different amount without raccommitting raccrimes

and if you buy multiple, the raccompany also owes the tax on multiple of those sold items, not just however many fit in a box

@sodiboo i think it is however reasonable for the post-shipping price to be shown in the listing even if it is only a guideline, like “this is how much you might pay” but free shipping ultimately is just a way to charge more for the same product

@sodiboo it would legally have to show you the reduced amount for in-store pickup which kinda defeats the whole point of the exercise

raccompanies try that here for tax reasons (like i said food was 7% but it’s 19% if it’s served so some places try to charge raccustomers 10% more for eating in the house instead of for takeout)

@sodiboo and so like different prices for delivery and pickup can absolutely be done! i think it’s much better if it was just a separate delivery price instead of having two prices for every single listing

@sodiboo funny, I prefer it the other way around. Otherwise, if I want multiple of an item, I’m paying for the shipping at least twice