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why is paying to decline cookies becoming so common

- posted by Seraphine
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@Transbian_Arsonists it’s… not?? it’s literally illegal. this isn’t going to catch on. I’ve heard second hand accounts of it maybe like half a dozen times tops? but that only feels so frequent because it’s equally shocking every time. it’s not actually a common practice lol

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@sodiboo for the past few days ive seen it multiple times a day

- posted by Seraphine
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@sodiboo it’s legal here btw

- posted by Seraphine
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@sodiboo @TransbianArsonists@catwithaclari.net I remember at least two websites the last week where I fat fingered the “deny” button and got redirected to a page where I’m told to pay for their subscription or change my cookie settings. I don’t care enough so I just accept but yes this is in fact a thing. the fact it _may be illegal surely don’t seem to be stopping anyone

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@Transbian_Arsonists have you been visiting the same site several times over the past few days? where are you seeing this?

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@Transbian_Arsonists even outside of GDPR there’s no reason to offer “pay to decline tracking” because they can just… not tell you about it and that’s technically legal.

but within the jurisdiction of the GDPR both are equally illegal. and it doesn’t really matter what happens elsewhere because the EU/EEA is a huge market, and websites must conform to the strictest intersection of all laws of jurisdictions they care about not being blocked in.

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@cuddlebug @Transbian_Arsonists it’s not “may” be illegal. it’s unambiguously super illegal and you should report those sites to IMY.

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it's illegal in the EU maybe but many sites have cookie banners globally

well, that and German news sites do it anyways lol

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@sodiboo our laws are based on gdpr but they arent identical, so it’s still illegal to have tracking cookies without the user accepting but it’s legal to make them pay

- posted by Seraphine
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@sodiboo brexit, the greatest thing to happen to britain /s

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@sodiboo its becoming extremely common on news sites i think, every example i can think of is a news website most of them small

- posted by Seraphine
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@sodiboo @Transbian_Arsonists yea, I probably should. but as far as I can recall both of those websites where I got that on were probably american websites, and not really big reputable ones at that. I’ll still make a note if I stumble upon such a website again though. FWIW I have not seen any e.g. swedish online news sites that do it. they either paywall everyone or give you X amount of free articles a day, which I assume is still legal

(also I may sound a bit pessimistic about the effectiveness of GDPR enforcement but I of course know there’s value in reporting to express disapproval of bad/illegal practices purely for statistical purposes. attached, the response I received from IMY two months or so ago regarding my PII report of Checknode AB, AKA upplysning.se. it was closed without action due to an investigation on the entire company by IMY already being ongoing, but at least I am part of the volume of complaints they receive and that they will likely take into account in the investigation)

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@cuddlebug @Transbian_Arsonists

both of those websites where I got that on were probably american websites

they are still, legally, objectively in the wrong if they are serving EU residents. it doesn’t matter if they’re American, they’re breaking EU law. the EU can’t directly force them to comply with legal pressure, but can block the sites outsight

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@sodiboo @Transbian_Arsonists it’s shockingly common on german language journalism sites

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