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@nightjar

You’ve got to be kidding me, does Zuckerberg as in “Mark Zuckerberg” literally mean “Sugar Mountain”??

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@nightjar why would someone’s last name be sugar mountain

Is it something like “Mark of Sugar Mountain” where there was a place called that, which people got named after?

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@Byte the story I heard is that in the middle ages, Jewish people in central Europe often just didn't use surnames at all. Then first Napoleon and then the Prussians came through and told everyone to adopt surnames.

You end up with a lot of stereotypically Jewish surnames such as Rosenbaum, Rosenberg, Grünberg, Goldberg, and yes, Zuckerberg. I think people just chose them because they sounded nice. No idea though. There may be something deeper to this

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@Byte there are many Yiddish words and names that sound straight up German to my ears. Like, I'll listen to an Anglo speak and all of a sudden they use a German word, such as mensch or schlepp. But they're not German, they're Yiddish. And the meanings of those words is often different

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Ashkenazi Jewish surnames
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@nightjar @Byte most of them that fall outside that category of "idk it sounds like a cool name" just took the name of their settlement. It is pretty common to be able to trace an Ashkenazi Jewish family back to the exact village in eastern europe by name alone. A lot of these places no longer exist because they were Jewish settlements targeted in pogroms, or just happened to be in the path of a war.

It really isn't that different than people in most places forced to adopt surnames. In other historical circumstances a surname would be a family trade, name of a clan, or something.

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@thufie @nightjar oh yeah that also makes sense. I understand that’s how a lot of surnames came about. Like Anglo ones such as “Baker”, “Smith”, etc that are just a trade

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surname shitpost
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@nightjar @thufie in 1000 years we will have people called things like “John Plumber” and “Björk Electrician”

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@Byte @nightjar that's before the concatenation kicks in, and we get John Elektrikpetersson

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@thufie @Byte Detlef Influencer. Abigail Sysadmin

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@thufie @Byte there's this novel called Qualityland where Germany gets renamed to Qualityland for marketing reasons and everyone takes a surname according to the occupation of their parents. The protagonist's name is Peter Arbeitsloser

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@thufie @nightjar yeah that's raccommon for German surnames too. Followed by some ancestors social rank, a property about them, or where they lived. Sometimes it's also just a given name
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@thufie @nightjar PETER JOB-LOSER?!?!

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@Byte @thufie Peter Jobless

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@nightjar @thufie @Byte ancap cyberpunk dystopia

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@mynameistillian @thufie @Byte yeah. The premise of the book is basically that Amazon took over everything and automatically makes you buy products before you know that you need them. The algorithm is infallible

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