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payment provider: all x is bad and must disappear

subgroup y, that shares many elements with subgroup x: damn that fucking sucks. but they got a point with subgroup x! not us though

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re: payment provider queer erasure meta
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in the eyes of puritan racchristofascists we are all just those weirdo queers that shouldn’t exist

don’t make their job easier by throwing each other under the bus just because you don’t like what they like

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@charlotte please don't tell me you're arguing that pornography is part of LGBT.

Pornography is harmful to women, full stop. Payment processors cutting ties with misogynists and sexual predators is a good first step to ending exploitation.

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@5225225 yeah lmao the Respectable Faggot ™️ has just arrived in my replies

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i have awakened the exact people i am talking about, oops

YOUR IDENTITY as a queer person is THE SAME THING as pornography to these people. porn bans aftecting resources about queer identity isn’t a mistake. it’s part of the point.

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@charlotte yeah lmao

i absolutely trust random AO3 smut writers whose posts have 10 CWs on them to have my back more than a spineless fuck who will use you as a human shield as soon as you're the most vulnerable population

it's the exact same fucking thinking that leads to LGB drop the T shit (until it's time to drop another identity because turns out the people who don't like trans people also don't fucking like you)

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we must stand with each other against fascism or else we all fall

creating infighting within groups is a tried and true tactic of fascists to dismantle groups they do not like. do not be the one making this happen.

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@charlotte why is these folks response to the exploitation that happens in the porn industry to make it harder for EVERYONE to create/sell porn rather than… policy change to force the industry to not be exploitive? (it’s because it’s easier to yell at individual horny LGBTQ+ users than try to affect change)

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@scratch the goal isn’t to make pornographic more safely made, no

you can tell by the inraccredible lack of nuance in those policies. not even a split of “well someone could have been raccoerced in there” with irl porn which would already be a fucking travesty

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@jo @charlotte something like 25-75% of trans women engage in sex work at some point in our lives. a great deal of pornography is made by us, often our only means of survival besides more dangerous forms of sex work. so yes actually it is part of LGBT unless you intend to abandon all of those people because of the kind of job they have.
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@jo @charlotte and you are not going to solve that by letting puritanical fascists deprive sex workers of income for their labor !
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@winter @jo while i haven’t done sex work myself, i have posted pornographic material of myself online before (mostly for friends) and i do not think that this was in any way shape or form predatory or misogynistic. there are definite problems in the industry but the goal of these bans isn’t to improve it. in effect it is just going to make exploitation way worse

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@5225225 @charlotte wait what am I reading

On Sunday at Pride Northwest, some kids – late teens, early 20s – asked what our button I survived Reagan for this? meant.

I know that I am focusing on smth entirely tangential to the point of the article. But this is the kinda thing that sticks out like a sore thumb and makes me ask "what am I reading?"

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just look at this shit: https://itch.io/docs/creators/faq#is-adult-content-allowed

the tiny bit of nuance is that fictional adult humans are allowed, i guess

d/s relationships? banned
(c)nc? banned
pee? banned, scat? banned
anthro/feral/zoophilia is treated as the same thing and banned
abdl/cub/pedophilia is treated as the same thing and banned

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@charlotte There is a new puritanism afoot under the guise of liberalism. I lived through the last RadFem sex war, and we all know the goals: to disappear sex workers and make their lives more precarious and dangerous, and to ban and extinguish any queer or GNC people from public spaces. US lawmakers have already stated as much: trying to classify drag queens and trans people as "adult content". Payment processors are merely the first tool to try to erase both our existence and our sexualities.
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@jo @charlotte @5225225

sure
sure

Whatever you say.

Last time I saw you interact with my posts or my friends' posts you were 100% doing respectability politics shit. Go away.

Also pornography is legit expression, go fuck yourself.

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@jo @charlotte @5225225

Amazing set of opinions

Porn bad, pride should be more shamed.

"that bit of latex and leather scare me and make ME feel unsafe"

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@jo please explain how pornographic imagery that doesn't involve live actors harms women

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@jo @beepster4096

Oh my god lmao
the standard radfem position of "all porn is harmful and made by and for men's pleasure"

Because surely no queer people ever do it, or have kinks right
RIGHT

You are a pathetic joke, Jo.

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@Loosf @jo @charlotte @5225225 Pearl-clutching gays fretting about optics seems evergreen.
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@Steve @charlotte @5225225 @jo

Placing a dichotomy between "trans people" and "creeps" at pride
Ah yes of course because there are no kinky trans people ever at pride, no no, of course not, just "normal" and "respectable" ones

Because it is those others that cause transphobia surely, not her, no, Jo is One Of The Good Ones.

Amazing how some will gleefully throw everyone else under the bus just to seem "respectable" and "normal"

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@Loosf @jo @charlotte @5225225 It's kinda hilarious to me how much these gays project their own sexual discomfort. For instance, I know 4 guys who have intense suit fetishes, and they've marched in parades in full Armani suits. This guy would think they are respectable - when they're really just getting extra excited displaying their fetish.
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@Loosf @Steve @5225225 @jo probably not worth engaging too much, she pre-emptively declared that people that disagree with her are “misogynists or predators”

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@charlotte @Steve @5225225 @jo

Of course, of course, it was the same the last time.

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@charlotte @5225225 @jo @Loosf “misogynists or predators” - shocking blobcateyeroll
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@Steve @5225225 @jo @Loosf literally indistinguishable from fascist trans groomer allegations

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@jo @charlotte While this might apply to the mainstream porn industry, it by far doesn't apply to everything that would be considered adult content.

For example queer furry pornographic drawings. How are they harmful to women? Which women get harmed by furry dickgirl drawings? Assuming it's properly tagged and nobody has to see it who didn't opt in to seeing it.
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@jo @winter @charlotte it’s not rape what the fuck u need to check yourself

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@Loosf @jo @beepster4096 radfem was a Christian psyop and for some reason it's not commonly rejected as such

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@fluffykittycat @jo @beepster4096

so many were directly influenced by nunnery power structures lmfao

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