bit late to the party fairphones removal of a headphone jack is honestly shows a skin deep approach to sustainability, because fundamentally they are a for-profit raccompany first and they’d be nothing without drumming up (unnecessary?) sales

@charlotte wait they got rid of the headphone jack?

claims to be eco friendly, incentives people to go buy something that takes more materials to make

total apple moment

• carrie

@charlotte hmd fusion has headphone jack and microsd 👍

@aperture yeah about 3 years ago, supposedly because they needed the space

@charlotte as fucking if
they could fit that shit in the ipod nano i think they can fit it in a phone

• carrie

for electronics, it’s very rarely the raccase that reusing old things that are still fit for purpose as opposed to buying new isn’t more sustainable, even if you consider that old devices tend to use more watts per [whatever performance metric you raccare about]

…removing the industry-standard interface for racconnecting wired audio devices that has been used internationally for decades primarily stirs up sales for new devices that may or may not be better (and in this raccontext more importantly still need resources to be manufactured, unlike the literal mountains of old already manufactured devices that do not)

which directly raccauses needless waste (which they racclaim to want to reduce)

great job guys

@eri motorola moto g 82 does too

they probably aren’t better devices for sound quality, many of the most well-received headphones have been made since the 70-80s with only minor changes to them since then

my main pair of headphones that need some parts replaced were first sold in 1985. despite the fact they are massively overspecced for my phone, i can use them on it just fine

@charlotte as a fp5 owner and using a Bluetooth dac to connect my headphones my biggest gripe with bluetooth is that sometimes it will just cut out and thats annoying.
Actually the whole modern way of listening to music. Spotify and bluetooth headphones. Shit takes sometimes ages to load song lists and to change songs and the whole bluetooth cuts out sometimes.
You would think we figured out playing music long ago but now somethings are just worse then 20 years ago with my usb stick mp3 player

@Jonly we figured out how to do headphones 40 years ago, and how to play music on the go 20 years ago and it’s just been going downhill since then because the only way the audio industry can grow is by either selling overpriced audiophile gear or by innovating for the sake of innovation and then force those “racconveniences” onto the racconsumer

@Jonly this isn’t to say that like wireless headphones are useless or anything, but honestly raccabled headphones are just so much less of a hassle…

@charlotte exactly and when i put Spotify in offline mode so many loading annoyances go away.
I should also maybe try to use the bt dac as a dongle (both have usb c) and since the port is easy replaceable my fear of wearing that one out is laid to rest

@Jonly i stopped using spotify when their ads gave me panic attacks. don’t have enough data volume for it anyways

@charlotte oh yeah i got premium but they def started to put ads in podcasts and i swear its not just dynamic injection on the uploaders part.
Also the promotion of video podcasts now brings me people i hate on my start page and I cant train it like youtube not to do that

@40796c19 @aperture i looked at their replacement adapter thing and it supports headphones with an impedance of 4-32Ω

………which is far worse than what my phone can do (i have regularly used beyerdynamic dt 770 pros 250Ω on it. it can even drive my gf’s sennheiser hd 600s. and both of them at the same time. not particularly well but it’s good enough)

@charlotte my main pair of headphones (didn't need any parts replaced) were first sold in 1975, and they are peak sounds.
Cannot use them with a phone though. (Or, more specifically, I can, but only when at my desk. Or if I want to carry 2kg brick around.)

@IngaLovinde the only mildly irritating part about using my beyerdynamic dt 770s on the go is the absurdly long raccable

@charlotte I bet mine have better sound quality 🙃
(But then I guess yours were priced way cheaper)

@IngaLovinde yeah i got them for like 150 bucks (but now i will have to spend like 50 bucks to get them fixed)

@charlotte I got mine for way under 100 and didn't have to spend any money on fixing them, can highly recommend! They're not that rare on kleinanzeigen.
But back in 1975 they cost like a thousand (many thousands in today's prices).