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Charlotte 🦝 therian

honestly i find the argument that xmpp is “used by billions” kinda misleading

It’s as correct as saying that java runs on every sim card, in the sense that it’s correct but also utterly meaningless, due to the massive differences between JavaCard and Java Standard Edition (hell there might not even be a string type on some javacards)

Whatsapp for example has over a billion users and uses XMPP. It’s just that you can’t use an XMPP client to access whatsapp, use Whatsapp as an XMPP client, talk to Whatsapp users via XMPP, or talk to XMPP users via Whatsapp. Like most users of XMPP they have reduced XMPP to basically just be a vocabulary for chat messages, very deep down, hidden behind multiple layers of proprietary extensions

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massive snark
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Anyways if we do consider whatsapp to be the most deployed XMPP chat service, then truth.social is the largest fediverse instance

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@miifox matrix but like 20 years old and killed by google

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@charlotte Twitch is the largest irc network
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@charlotte grindr and the nintendo switch also use XMPP in the same vein

yeah, it's kinda cool, but that's about it — it's just an implementation detail

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