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Thorwegian (old account)

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my iPhone takes better pictures than the entry-level Nikon DSLR i bought 10 years ago. there's almost no point to using it anymore.

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@thor I mean maybe it is the end result that is indeed better but photos taken with phones are the result of software trickery. RAW photos taken by phone cameras look like ass.

I’m very sure that a DSLR is physically capable of taking much better RAW pictures than any phone camera ever could, but of course taking advantage of that requires you to know how to edit RAWs and such.

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@thor TBH, I'm having a bit of trouble believing that...especially if you're looking at the images on a large display

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@SuperDicq The photos from the phone might look better initially but there is no way that a sensor the size on a smartphone is going to outcompete the sensor on even a crop-sensor DSLR. I can see myself taking the picture in people’s eyeballs from images my 48 MP full-frame DSLR spits out. @thor

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@adiz @thor When you zoom in on high resolution smartphone images you can often notice that those small details aren’t there but are merely made up by software, machine learning upscale models and sharpening filters. It’s not the same as real detail being there.

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@adiz @SuperDicq @thor and on 50MP phones you cannot even take RAWs at that resolution, almost certainly because the sensor is oversampled
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@SuperDicq the algos help of course. but i can do a lot of the stuff a RAW editor can do in the Camera app on my phone. much of the time, there's no need to bring it on a computer to tune the image. i have a RAW shooting app for my phone and i sometimes edit those on the computer, but what the camera app plus adjustments on the phone provide does allow you to produce an end result that looks good rather quickly.

maybe where phones are still a bit weak is low-light conditions. you need a bigger sensor for that.

but my low-end DSLR only had an APS sensor, not a 35mm sensor, so even it was a bit limited.

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@charlotte Sensor size will always beat out megapixels. @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyoo @thor

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@adiz @thor yeah but phones are lying about how many megapixels their sensors have, too. These >25MP modes also aren’t available to 3rd party apps in many cases, and the built-in camera app will will not offer the same features as even in basic mode for hi-res-mode

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@charlotte @adiz @SuperDicq @thor This is actually also what the digital cameras for Hasselblad does, though they do it mechanically, they physically move the sensor to take multiple samples and thus be able to make a picture with a higher resolution than the sensor.
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@erk @SuperDicq @adiz @thor yeah the issue i have is just that it advertises the oversampled processed image size as the sensor pixel count

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@charlotte @SuperDicq @adiz @thor Giving it another look it actually looks like they have a 100 mpeg sensor which they then move to get the 4 colours, but they can also move it in a different way to get super resolution.

https://www.hasselblad.com/h-system/h6d-400c-multi-shot/
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@erk My Pentax K1 could do that! @charlotte @SuperDicq @thor

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