I kinda wish I could do exams on typewriter or sth because writing by hand fucking sucks

@charlotte the ones with a cursive typeface are best

@charlotte I mean, aside from the hilarious looks of your peers, what prevents you from bringing in a typewriter in class?

Proceeds to bring in an electric typewriter with a 2048-character memory

@charlotte At my school I remember you were allowed to type exams on a school laptop without internet if you had a disability that prevented you from writing by hand.

@charlotte How hard is it for you to write by hand? If you have a condition like dyslexia or dyspraxia, many schools might allow you to type on a computer for exams

@SuperDicq i can write by hand, it just starts hurting after a while and it’s hard to read. i think i could figure out something with the uni but i went through 12 years of school without it and so a few exams that require hardwriting for some reason isn’t that much of an issue.

@iro_miya https://akko.chir.rs/notice/ASEdnMxAnG7RvgCGky

@charlotte I akso remember that for me during highschool handwriting didn’t hurt at all because I was used to handwriting everything. Then at uni I stopped handwriting completely because we could use computers in class now.

In my final year of uni I had an exam that was handwriting only and it was pretty bad because during the exam I realised I hadn’t touched a pen at all for about 2 years and I kinda forgot how to do it.

@iro_miya @charlotte My handwriting was pretty bad as well, but my main issue was that I learned how to use a computer before I learned how to write.

Moving a computer mouse and also drawing you (are supposed to) do by moving the mouse/pen using your arm and not using your wrist. Handwriting however, you are supposed to do using your wrist.

I was handwriting like I was moving a computer mouse so it really sucked and I had to take extracurricular classes in elementary school to “fix” my handwriting skills just to never use handwriting ever again after I got out of school.

@charlotte @SuperDicq o I see

Well it’s great that you got to write on laptop in uni, it’s really sad that high and middle schools aren’t so up to speed… I also don’t think I’ve ever been presented with the option to use a laptop until uni.

I feel like the mentality, all the way before uni, is that if you have trouble handwriting, that’s a skill issue and it’s up to you to do more effort. It’s only when you get to uni that they’re like “oh now that you’re an adult it has to be a handicap”. That’s really frustrating.

A mechanical writing machine would be dope though 😆 I actually remember seeing a gif of someone using one in a classroom setting, supposedly also because they couldn’t bring a laptop.

@SuperDicq @charlotte That’s a really interesting issue

@iro_miya @SuperDicq in high school my parents and i were actually looking if i could use a laptop at school but that didn’t go anywhere. i bought a laptop specifically for university and it’s been great

@SuperDicq @iro_miya I also kind of learned how to type before learning reading proper (we had an unused dos (later win98) pc standing around and i could play on it), but learning to write wasn’t that difficult (it just didn’t look good)

@charlotte @SuperDicq That’s awesome that you finally got the accomodations you needed ♥️

I studied in IT, my uni was quite pro-laptop so I didn’t really need permission. It was also really great for me too.

@iro_miya @charlotte I studied software engineering in uni and there were already at the point that instead of no laptops you were actually required to have a laptop with you at all times.

@SuperDicq @iro_miya there is one professor in my uni that insisted on handwritten at-home exams. the funniest part is that there was no supervision so you could print it out (or open it in krita on a tablet), work on it for 3 hours hours (this was a 90 minute exam!) and then send it to the prof via email

@SuperDicq @iro_miya he claimed it was to cut down on cheating but guess what! in those 3 hours someone who is likely going to be great at the exam could have done the exam in full, then send the solutions to other students and have them copy the results (changing some thing so that it’s not obvious)

@charlotte @SuperDicq Adament on handwriting, lax on everything else 🥴

@charlotte @SuperDicq Did that happen? 🤣

@iro_miya @SuperDicq he also didn’t even validate your handwriting, so you could have just had someone else take the exam for you

@charlotte @iro_miya I’ve cheated my way through highschool.

Mostly by stealing answersheets from teacher computers.

It’s amazing how many teachers don’t even lock their classrooms during breaks and then also keep their computers unlocked and also keep their encrypted USBs mounted.

@charlotte @SuperDicq also sorry for no image descs but they’re broken on Milktea, you can’t add them for some reason

@charlotte @iro_miya You’ll only have to do this once and you’ll have all the answers for all the tests of the entire year.

@SuperDicq @iro_miya the only time i cheated in school, i still got it wrong. allowed people next to me to copy my results if they wanted to ofc

@charlotte @iro_miya The only subjects that I didn’t try to cheat on were subjects that I didn’t need to study for anyway, such as math or english.

@SuperDicq @iro_miya like lmao the maths teacher was so clueless when the person next to me got a 2 in maths (despite having a bonus due to dyscalculia)

@charlotte @SuperDicq In my school we would rarely straight up pass answers, but we’d often go on Discord VC to do the exams together, essentially passing answers… but orally 😆 (this was during the COVID pandemic and they were online)

@iro_miya @charlotte Oh yeah cheating during online exams was a piece of cake, no easier way to cheat. I was talking about my highschool days way before this.

@iro_miya @SuperDicq in my personal experience uni exams aren’t even all that difficult, i managed to cram half a semester worth of stats classes into like 1 day but that might just have been me

@charlotte @iro_miya Last day? I have often crammed things an hour before the exam.

I remember a teacher once said “Don’t try to cram all this before the exam, or you will not remember it long term” and my immediate thought being “Wait so if I cram I don’t have to remember this? Cool, let’s do that”

@SuperDicq @iro_miya well it was more like “just make sure i know how this works” and work through the sample exam and it worked. couldn’t attend most classes this semester and forgot about the exam until literally the day before the first one. fun

@charlotte @iro_miya And that’s how you get me who had French class for 3 years and can’t even speak a basic sentence.

@SuperDicq @iro_miya i think i had 5 years of french in high school and 2 in primary school and can maybe read some very simple french. also my brain just randomly inserted japanese words into my french vocab so that’s fun

@SuperDicq @charlotte There was this communication class that I crammed the night before the exam, I wrote a summary of all the stuff and shared with my class, so some people were able to cram it an hour before thanks to that.

This was as thanks for the time I arrived late to a class and said there were bus delays, and everyone said it was true, even though it wasn’t. Real moment of solidarity.

@iro_miya @SuperDicq they luckily don’t take attendance here. either you are there or you’re not lol

@charlotte @iro_miya I can understand fluent German like 95% of the time, but I can barely speak it because I never even bothered learning your grammar.

I can read almost all Japanese that isn’t kanji, but the only Japanese vocabulary that I know are words related to my interests and hobbies.

@charlotte @SuperDicq My school was strict about attendance, you could only miss class three times a semester, multiple classes missed consecutively in one morning or afternoon counted as one though.

Many teachers did feel this was excessive.

@iro_miya @SuperDicq it is excessive. here, in principle, anyone can come to any class whenever they happen, even if you don’t take that class (you just need to be a student)

@charlotte @SuperDicq Yeah that makes sense, and I believe most schools in France are like that

@iro_miya @charlotte In Netherlands we have very strict minimum hour requirements for highschool students, as in like you actually have to clock in and out at the library and stuff to register your hours. And if you miss a few hours without a valid reason they will send a civil servant to your house to go talk to your parents, it’s absolutely insane.

And then you go to uni and there’s suddenly no mandatory attendance at all whatsoever and you have complete personal responsibility.

@iro_miya @SuperDicq it’s kinda weird here because i don’t go to a regular university i go to a Hochschule which used to be closer to regular schools, just with university-level classes, which i think is a fitting model for me due to me having adhd

@SuperDicq @iro_miya we didn’t clock in in school but the teachers took attendance sometimes, and if you weren’t there for more than a day or two they would call your parents

@charlotte @SuperDicq I actually pretty much did the same thing in France (I went to a IUT), with smaller, more practical classes, and I also felt like it was much better for me. I graduated in design and web programming. Later I’d learn I had ADHD, so that makes sense

@SuperDicq @iro_miya the last two years were a little bit absurd with this because they would require you to request skipping school 2 weeks in advance, or hand in a doctor’s note, which wasn’t necessary in earlier years

@charlotte @iro_miya In Dutch I also went to a “Hogeschool”, but they did give me an internationally valid Bachelor’s degree and in English my school calls itself “university” so I’m calling it that too.

@SuperDicq @iro_miya oh yeah, mine calls itself “university of applied sciences” in english. it definitely has more of an engineering focus (it started as an engineering school, but branched into other fields)

@SuperDicq @iro_miya idk why that change was necessary because even if you are going straight to work after, you can just skip work for up to 2 days without a doctor’s note lol

@charlotte @iro_miya Oh yeah I also applied science in the name. Still, a uni is a uni.

@charlotte @iro_miya Yeah it’s insane how schools can be much more strict than actual workplaces.

What’s even the point of this? How does making students miserable add to education?

@SuperDicq @iro_miya i also loved (/j) how you had to go to every single teacher for a signature with that doctor’s note so they could verify that you weren’t there ?? why can’t i just go to the secretary or my main teacher and hand it in

@SuperDicq @charlotte @iro_miya For me the issue was the teacher being a dick. I could prolly speak french if the teacher didn’t make it so completely horrible to learn the language in my high school.