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This is why you shouldn’t overuse emojis in social media.

🔗 Taken from the UK’s Royal National Institute of Blind People https://www.rnib.org.uk/

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@Aday People shouldn't suffer from shitty software – demand better.

This is 100% a software issue that screen reader vendors need to fix.

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@Aday Honest question: could screen readers handle some emoji differently? "Clapping hands" could be a sound effect instead, and that's how I hear it in my head. Perhaps the Unicode Consortium could even specify one sound as an audio equivalent.

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@Aday That's what it sounds like in my head when I type that tho 🤔

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@Aday But 😭 when 🧐 I overuse 🤙emojis 🤑 it's 🤓 so 🗿 funny 😂 like 👍 bro 🫡 just 🫠 get 😉 a better 🥸 screen 📺 reader 🗣📣‼️🔥🔥🔥

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@Aday TIL I may have used one of the acceptable instances of this format that usually annoys me

https://beige.party/@gettingcomputey/112794819234791932

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@Aday
Personally, as a person with no visual difficulties at all, I think it's just a terrible way to emphasize your message. We have plenty of ways to add emphasis that aren't nearly as aggravating. I have unfollowed people who do this too often.

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@Aday This style is also pretty hard to read for lots of folks who don't use a screen reader (me! 🙋🏻‍♀️ )

I know without looking that some responses are gonna say things like "fix the screen reader!" -- but that's not an instant fix plut there are a lot of different screen readers.

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@Aday I thought screen readers could distinguish the difference between emojis and text, after all emojis are an unicode combination 🤔

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@soc it would be interesting to see screen readers stepping up (perhaps using AI?) and better adapting the content based on the context. But then there are many other implications at play, so while they figure it out, maybe we can be a bit empathetic in the meantime? ☺️ It doesn’t cost me anything to avoid writing like that.

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@Aday "clapping hands" Damn, I felt that

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@MisterMoo I’m no expert in accessibility so I can only answer with my opinion, but I feel like that’s a good question!

I guess it would heavily depend on how screen reader users prefer to interpret emojis.

I can imagine that hearing the sound would be harder to decode than the description of the sound. Imagine the following sequence for instance: 🌊👏🏽🎬✍🏽🗣️🌧️🏀

You would need to pay a lot of attention to identify each sound, and then it wouldn’t work for all emojis, so maybe that’s why?

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@davidhughes oh that’s quickly becoming annoying too. Some of them are indicative of whether the text has been written using ChatGPT or not 😄

Here’s the LinkedIn link: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rnib_what-overusing-emojis-sounds-like-to-screen-activity-7219245975750533120-aeBm?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios

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@Aday Maybe a tiny beep or other indicator at the start of the effect to distinguish it from other sounds? Just spitballing but it seems easier to change the way screen readers work than to get the whole world to stop👏doing👏this. I assume the person using a screen reader wants that product to acceptably reproduce the text they come across and I'm not sure "stop [CLAPPING HANDS] doing [CLAPPING HANDS] this" fits the bill.

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@Aday @MisterMoo i’m unaware of any existing mechanism for breaking out of the speech synthesizer and outputting arbitrary sounds instead, but there do tend to be mechanisms for overriding how punctuation (including emoji) is read. in nvda: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#SymbolPronunciation

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@dminca @Aday they can, but emoji can be important to the meaning of the text and are as such read out

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