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USB-C is so eco friendly, it stops all of those chargers ending up in landfills don't you know!
Meanwhile: People are filling landfills with otherwise perfectly fine laptops and Nintendo Switches and phones because said USB-C ports aren't on flyleads internally and require advanced level soldering skills and a fuck-ton of equipment and countless different ports to hand to use as replacement because they're only the same connector externally.
This is one of my biggest greenwashing tech grumbles

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Yes, USB-C is amazing (when it works), but also if USB-C is to be made mandatory, it also has to be made mandatory repairable (parts made available at a reasonable cost, no specialist tools required)

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@Shrigglepuss I don't feel like usb-c is the issue here?

And I feel doubtful many people will just throw the stuff out? For laptops, if it isn't a critical port, they will likely ignore it. After that, poke some service shop. Buying a new laptop isn't something people can just drop cash on easily and it is cheaper to try and get it repaired

Same with a Switch? And also if Switch was HDMI and barrel plug you still have the same problem...

Connectors aren't at fault..?

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@saphire @Shrigglepuss yeah it's entirely an engineering issue. The dock connector on many phones is on a separate board to the Mainboard, and the proprietary charging connectors on various laptops are also sometimes soldered on, sometimes on its own board
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@charlotte @saphire It's quite rare for DC jacks to be soldered onto laptops in the past few years. Lenovo still have some catching up but most other manufacturers use flyleads now, it's really good. The obvious exception from all manufacturers is laptops with USB-C ports for charging though, ofc.
Some (very rarely) put them on a daughterboard, but that's an exception to the norm

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@saphire It's a very critical port when it's used for charging??
Replacing a USB-C port as opposed to a laptop charging port on a flylead is a whole other level of complicated. Most DC jacks are user replaceable now and very cheap and readily available. Until USB-C ports are that easy to repair it's not an improvement at all in terms of avoiding e-waste

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@Shrigglepuss er, what's a flylead?

And I'm saying that most people will likely just go to a repair shop with this kind of issue, rather than to throw something that obviously works but has a "one broken little thing". United they have enough money to throw it out, buy a new one and not be bothered by it. Which isn't the most people.

Yes it's complicated, but for most people replacing a DC jack that's attached by plain wires can also be complicated...

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@Shrigglepuss @saphire the one laptop that I have with a DC barrel jack has it soldered onto the Mainboard. The proprietary port on my current laptop is connected via an internal connector. You can definitely connect USB C using an internal connector and make the port replaceable. Manufacturers just choose not to.
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@charlotte @saphire @Shrigglepuss having it on a separate small board with a bit of flex can also increase longevity (as forces applied to cable will not act on solder joints as much and will not act to tear the port out of motherboard that's rigidly fixed in the device)

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