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OK, so of course there's now a rolladen vs. awning debate going on and, I kid you not, there's somebody out there who thinks the fact that rolladen blocks the view when in use is irrelevant because "the reason we had windows was to let in natural light and with efficient LEDs we don't need that anymore"

Sure, pal.

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@TechConnectify I think they may have missed the point you were making.

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@BackFromTheDud They weren't arguing with me, exactly, just in a comment thread I saw.

But they said something akin to "why would you want to look outside when indoors?" and to be honest I died a little when I read that.

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@TechConnectify Ah. People like that are a good reason for extra-terrestrial being's to avoid this planet!

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@TechConnectify Is "rolladen" a term Americans use regularly?

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@plusmid heh, no. But I know what it is

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@TechConnectify for what it's worth, I would lose my mind living in a house only by fixtures - natural light is also good for the circadian rhythm etc

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@TechConnectify I don't think I know anyone in Germany who would equate the two.

If I do, they're dead to me.

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@TechConnectify As much as I like a good Rolladen, not being able to look outside is a drawback. If it was up to me, I would have both.

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@yatil I agree, but "both" can be an awning with interior window treatments. Unless you truly want night during the day (which I know some folks do) rolladen plus an awning feels redundant.

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@yatil @TechConnectify I mean, just replace the window with a monitor and put a camera outside? (Probably said by the guy quoted in the original post)

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@TechConnectify @yatil The ones in the pic below were popular wayyy back and can still be found in some places, especially in the former GDR. Maybe the rollladen lovers would accept that as a compromise solution lol

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@TechConnectify I think for most people that’s true. My top-floor no-AC bias is showing. I like to lock out the sun completely in the rooms I’m not in.

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@yatil @TechConnectify Invite any North American who questions the utility of the Rollladen to your nearest Dachwohnung in Germany/Switzerland during the next heatwave. An awning can’t hold its own in this application.

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@TechConnectify …because we all know that window technology stopped advancing with the invention of “having a lit candle indoors”.

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@TechConnectify there is a point in how people these days keep their shutters closed all the time. this is quite a new evolution, but yeah i can vaguely imagine how someone who has never opened their rolladen since they moved in their shitty one-room apartment can argue how according to them the windows can just as well be gone.

(for context, i usually leave them at 50%. that has almost the same effect as awnings, tho i would prefer real awnings).

also they are a bit less common nowadays, but many condo's here came with four floors, one floor partially submerged. besides humidity issues those had very few natural light; perfect for those vampires among us.
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@miifox i always have my curtans closed as well, dont want people looking into my house. Downside of living in a city

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@TechConnectify Might I point out that in Europe we also use these. I have had these on my house since 1970ish.

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@TechConnectify So, what about these things? I live in the south… we don’t necessarily *need* shutters… but the house i grew up in (built in 1948) had actual, factual shutters! They were bi-fold and covered the whole window. I grew up in the woods, we didnt get much sun but it did help with storms and to keep the heat in. Why not have a practical purpose for these purposeless things… like… hiding a rolladen or an awning that’s not in use until you press a button or whatever…

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